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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 12, 2012 9:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: has the novelty worn off ?

I very much prefer the later half of 72',but certainly don't find the Europe shows less complex or the 73' shows more complex.There is wealth of top notch second set material from the Europe shows.

-Other One-
4/7 4/11 5/10 5/13 5/24

-Dark Star-
4/24 4/29 5/11 5/18 (all-time version)

4/17 4/29

-Jam into Morning Dew 5/26-

These along with a couple of Truckin's and some nice embryonic versions of Playin' fill out what would prove to be an impressive catalog of their more challenging material for any time period of their career.While later 72' had more jam related material to draw from with Playin' being fleshed out to a full blown improvisation piece,Bird Song being re-introduced,and Keith having 20-30 more shows under his belt,I don't see how the music is more complex.If the late 72'-73' stuff is more complex than the say late 71'-Europe shows,where does that leave the 69'-70' era? Two of the cornerstones of their improv material came to fruition in that era,where do they fall out on the complexity scale?
73' offers a different version of the band with a wealth of new material and a seemingly reinvigorated take on the song portion of the catalog which definitely impacted the jam material.The new jam material Eyes,Here Comes Sunshine and WRS are tightly scripted pieces with jam sections built in that generally don't vary all that much from playing to playing.As for Dark Star,O1 and Playin' they are very varied on any given night in any era so I don't see how complexity enters the picture.The Dark Star's from 6/7/69 or 7/18/72 or the O1 from 9/28/72 have never been bettered by later versions,equaled surely,Dark Star from 12/6/73,the O1 from 6/26/73,point being I think of 72'-74' as one long complicated era,at no point is one part better,but just a matter of preference.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 13, 2012 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: has the novelty worn off ?

Maybe 'complex' is the wrong word? Whatever the reason is for some people preferring July-Dec.'72 to the first half is the word I was looking for. (Wasn't trying to compare it to other eras, like '69 for example).
The subtlety, nuance,... dynamics.... of a piece like the Dark Star from 9/27/72 I don't hear in the Spring performances. The ensemble playing, the soloing, the way it can get so quiet, and at other times so raucous! Amazing stuff.
Spring '72 Dead to me is a good wine that needs to stay in the bottle just a bit longer to become great.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 13, 2012 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: has the novelty worn off ?

Yeah Reade,I didn't understand what you meant by complex although I agree that the later 72' stuff had a different feel,I think that was just the band growing more familiar with themselves and their approach to the more out part of the repertoire since re-introducing it when Keith joined in late 71'.I'm with you in that the jams seem more developed and diverse and that is why it is my favorite period.I whole heartedly agree that the spring shows are over rated when compared to the volume and quality of great music the band played between July-December,there is simply no comparison.As for the 73'-74' era,it is full of brilliant stuff,but like LIA it lost a certain edge for me.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 13, 2012 11:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: has the novelty worn off ?

The late-'72 jams are different...deeper, maybe, and sometimes more harrowing. I prefer the '72 style to the '73 style overall - I feel like some of the edge & energy had gone out, aside from the Tigers & feedback explorations. That's just a matter of preference (I don't think I prefer spring or fall '72 over each other, aside from missing Pigpen's material in the fall) - at any rate, I'd just point out that the Dead's style was always in transition, so I'm not sure the idea that they evolved to a single point of perfection holds up too well. ('69 is much less complex in the playing of course, but no less gripping for me!) '73 and '77 are just as transitional as other years, just lacking dramatic changes in membership. And there are things to love even in earlier, more embryonic pieces - the short fireball Playings of early '72 have a concentrated energy, for instance, that's missing in the longer, spacier versions.

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